Curio: Somewhere I encountered a mention that women who had kidney stones and who gave birth unambiguously claimed that the stones are excreted much more sick than children.

Alpine Joe: As a Kun, who has already given birth to two stones, I can say that it would be better for me to be hit by the balls 10 times.

Curio: How did you call it?

Promtovari: Phobos and Damos