There was a psychiatrist at the department. I went into the office, sat down. And she and her girlfriend on the phone trembling about some frank anger. Candy, cocktails, I listened for half an hour exactly (I watched the clock every minute, and a lot of doctors had to go through). It didn’t irritate me as a child, but I stopped, saying nothing. After half an hour, she put the phone, put the stamp, said the next call and called the number... and what, an interesting method, I thought.